Google+ Will Make the Drupal Community Smaller

Unless you have been hibernating the last few weeks, I'm sure you know most of what going on with Google's latest social network attempt Google+. This time it really looks like they will have a viable alternative to Facebook and Twitter. I've got my account already on July 1st, only two days after it launched, and can only say that so far I really like it. In my view it takes the best parts of Facebook, Twitter and other social sites and combines it with some new thinking and great integration with their own product. The end result is a much better user experience. At least for me, this is not only the most useful social network atempt (not just by Google) I've used, but also the most fund. It really makes it easy to engage with others.

But this is not a review of Google+, if that's what you want, there are thousands of them elsewhere, for example mine that was published on CMS Report. Instead, this post is about that:

Google+ Will Make the Drupal Community Smaller

Yes, I really believe it will. Not in the sense that it will take make the number of users on drupal.org smaller, but in the same way we say  - The world is getting smaller - when we talk about communication, in particular the Internet.

Using Circles it is very easy to organize the people you follow (Twitter style) to be able to quickly filter the stream of posts and other shares. My Drupal circle is quickly filling up and I see all kinds of posts and share in there. It is also very easy to reshare, +1 items and of course make comments.

Already I have both seen and participated in interesting discussion regarding Drupal that I'm quite sure would not have worked on for example Twitter. Some of these have also ended up in improvements to modules and other things, which I found is great. It would have worked on d.o as well, but then I would have activities had to search for it. On Google+ it comes to me...

Therefore I am convinced that we are going to see great discussions about pretty much anything Drupal popping up on Google+, often leading to things like a new issue ticket, module, document or something else on d.o. Google+ thus gives us a great way of starting of with an informal discussion about ideas, thoughts and other stuff. Then when more people joins up and the idea transforms into something with more consensus it can be moved to d.o.

Hangouts Could be Very Useful

Then of course we have Hangouts, the video conference feature, where up to ten people can talk with each other at the same time. Not only that, you can even watch a YouTube video together, for example a Drupal screencast or something.

Hangouts can be a great way for us in the Drupal community to get to know each other better, something that otherwise often is limited to DrupalCon's, DrupalCamp's and other community organized events. Here we can have a hangout whenever we want.

Hangouts can also be used by teams spread all over the world. By simply creating a circle with only the team members, it is then easy to start one where only those in that circle gets an invite. I think this can be a great tool for the community. I know it will give me a great way of getting to know more people in the community.

How to Find Fellow Drupalers on Google+

This is actually quite easy. You just need to find one, go to their profile page and check who they have in their circles, or who have them in theirs.

I got quite a few in mine, so that could be a good start for you. You'll find my profile at gplus.to/tsvenson (tip: gplus.to gives you a vanity URL to your Google+ profile that is easier to remember than the long string of numbers your profile has). While there, add me to your own circle(s) and I will follow you back.

Google have pretty much opened up for anyone with a Gmail account and Google Profile to join now. If you still need an invite, just use the contact form here on Drupal Mill and I will send you one ASAP.

See you in a Hangout soon...

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Wim Mostrey's picture

I recognize Google+ as a useful tool but for the purposes you describe in your post, when it comes to Drupal, I think that groups.drupal.org has much more benefits. It integrates perfectly with drupal.org and people's d.o profile, it doesn't require people to be in other people's Circles to see the different topics, and it's much, much more structured, open and transparent.

Note that Circles are private, while Groups are global. I can search all posts in a specific Group, but I can't search in a Circle. I can see all members in a Group, but I can't see what people are in your Circle (I can't even see what Circle you posted something in, or who is in that same Circle). This makes G+ hardly a very effective collaboration platform.

tsvenson's picture

Oh, I think you misread my post a bit, or I wasn't clear enough.

I don't see Google+, Twitter or other social sites, as a replacement for anything on the d.o infrastructure. For me they are complements, and can be very good ones if used right.

I know the difference between when I post in a circle and with a group on g.d.o. However, if I post public, which is the majority of my posts, on G+, everyone that has me in a circle will see it, and it is also searchable. For g.d.o, I need to actively go to there and search, or join a particular group to get emails for new posts.

I work a lot in Google Docs, and also now have a tab always open for G+. That way its quick for me to see the notifications, as well as if there are any interesting shares in one of my circles. I usually have it set on the Drupal circle.

As I mentioned, I have already seen interesting discussions spawned on G+. Several that I don't think would have happened on *d.o. I see a lot of good stuff being ironed out in those discussions as well as how to bring it over to d.o. Thus, when it gets to d.o, it will be of higher quality and have already been through a few iterations between people.

So, on G+ we can have a discussion over a coffee, then when the break is over we can go back to business and bring it to d.o.

However, d.o has nothing like Hangouts, and I do believe that feature on G+ can be very handy, both for private circles and just hanging out and talking for example Drupal with anyone that wants to join.

Julien's picture

I don't like google, so i will boycot google+, they are just copying someone else ideas

Damien's picture

I don't think it is logical to stated that. Then it's means all CMS also copying each other, because they all do manage contents. Also, phones tablets pc from all company share the same form-factor because everyone learn from success of each other.

With this mindset, you almost unable to use Drupal modules. There're always someone implemented the same idea before most Drupal module exist, or even Drupal itself learned from many CMS.

Maybe, you may even don't want to create a website because you may feel you're copying someone. I hope you can come up with some thing more innovation about how humanity use internet.

Copy is different from learning, inspiration from others.

Arne Tietz's picture

I think, a replacement would be too much. G+ is a nice and new thing. And with time there will be enough experience to judge G+.
But G+ is quite good to fill the gap of d.o. to those things you've mentioned, e.g. hangouts.
So I agree to your opinion that G+ could be a playground for drupalisti to talk. And the more serious topics and thoughts may go to d.o.

So let's play aroung in/with G+, meanwhile talking about drupal, and having fun.

jpw1116 on d.o's picture

Thomas, I think you hit the nail on the head with the bulk of your points, especially the concept of hangouts serving as impromptu (or alternatives to) g.d.o meetups. I will have to look and see whether screensharing is an option along with the YouTube "campfire" viewing functionality.

Unfortunately I don't think G+ is all that revolutionary, so far, from a UI perspective. Even FB seems more information dense, with useful refinements like new/unread counts appended to items in its own "stream."

Also, when I visit and see the same recent (stale) posts, yet other, previously visited ones off-screen have since received comments, I would like to know or even be taken to them. There seems to be ample whitespace in the sidebars to post a "what's hot" or maybe a "+1ing" top-ten list.

Otherwise, as a respected theme developer I follow put it, "Is it just me or does this social media thing become more and more time consuming?"

One other disapponting quirk is the notification of thread replies in my Gmail taskbar popup. Say you click on a preview, and get to the e-mail itself in Gmail--great, just continue the thread there by typing a response? Why not! It lets you . . . until the e-mail bounces and you're forced to cut & paste into the original G+ dialogue.

Sometimes I just want to yell "Plus one THIS!" . . .

Of course, I'd rather be starting up potential d.o threads like you suggested. Seriously. Otherwise this could soon fall prey to the observation of another circle member: "Google+: Where the main topic of conversation is Google+"

 

jpw1116 on d.o's picture

N.B., I am aware of the Notifications item in G+ . . . but it just doesn't seem as dynamic as it needs to be for my tastes.

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